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Here is a possible way that the ‘spider webs’ could be caused by radiation effects. Water on a camera lens can produce what photographers call orbs. Orbs are water or dust on a camera lens that can reflect light. For the the orb to form, water or dust must stick to the lens. Ordinary raindrops normally do not cause orbs or webs because they run off a vertical lens.
Weird glowing shapes in photos http://www.assap.ac.uk/newsite/htmlfiles/Weird%20shapes.html
“To produce such weird shapes, the water needs to form a droplet on the lens. If it just runs down the lens, you won't see the strange shapes.”
“The 'weird glowing shape' effect is caused by total internal reflection. Light from the source bounces around inside the water droplet at all sorts of different angles (this accounts for the 'glow'). Some of it emerges to form a highly distorted image of the light source for the camera sensor.”
All about orbs http://www.assap.ac.uk/newsite/htmlfiles/Orbs%20centre.html
Quisp - “Trouble is, washed-out fallout isn’t distributed in a neat, uniform radioactive haze. It’s lumpy, sticky, filled with hot particles, and prone to “hot spots”."
“However, radioactive particles can become electrostatically charged as a result of the decay process. Theories have been proposed to describe this self-charging phenomenon, which may have a significant effect on how these particles interact with one another and with charged surfaces in the environment.” http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20650464
“Alpha particles are positively charged and are therefore attracted to the negative plate in an electric field. Beta particles are negatively charged and are therefore attracted to the positive plate in an electric field. Gamma rays are unaffected.” http://www.s-cool.co.uk/a-level/physics/...-electric-field
Bright light is also required to produce orbs and weird glowing shapes. The light on the site may be a factor. The gas lights are very high intensity with a source that might appear to dance about. There are more gas lights in use than last year. Two additional ones on the south side of r4 seen in TBS but not visible in Tepco South might be the off camera light source for the more intense webs seen lately on Tepco South. The additional gas lights to the north by r1 and r2 may now be the light source for the webs seen recently in the Tepco North view.
Without having access to the camera and an onsite view it will be hard to prove what causes the webs. Sticky radioactive fallout in the raindrops and the unusual bright gas lights might be what is turning dull orbs into a bright, dancing light show.
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February 15, 2014 at 5:57 am South Tepcam webs captured from 16:45 to 17:45 jst to watch the lights come on. The gas light comes on at 17:08 jst about 23 minutes in. At 31 mins in the webs start.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9dpx3rtgehc9zy...01645%20jst.avi
While watching before the light show I noticed how the driving rain blurred the red of the cranes into nearby areas. Even if we can get proof the site lights are not causing the webs, what theory to account for the lights? Radiation affecting the ccd cameras? I've gathered info on ccd cameras but they don't show the webs as a known distortion.
The webs are brighter this year than last, but there are more site lights. The site would glow brighter at night than it did last year as seen on the other cams. I would not use the webs or glows as proof of higher emissions. I am not yet convinced what the webs are or aren’t and continue to gather evidence. Watching the webs and guessing what they might be is more fun than watching for a smoke event or another wisp of steam from r3.
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---------------- chargedbarticle December 31, 2013 at 7:43 pm • Reply I just ran across an item displaying a phenomenon remarkable similar to the spiderweb effects we have been seeing at Fuku: http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/...-pool.wbbh.html This took place at a swimming pool in Florida."
Chargedbarticle posted a CNN report of a web effect in a Florida pool. Its the closest to Fuku webs I've seen but the report is unclear about the cause. Did the person really see webs in the pool or just on camera? ============
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“Jet pumps located in the annulus between the outer wall of the vessel and an inner wall called the shroud increase the flow of water up through the fuel assembly. At high flow rates steam bubbles are removed more quickly, and hence moderation and reactivity is increased. When flow rate is decreased, moderation decreases as steam bubbles are present for longer and hence reactivity drops.”
From Anne’s excerpt of: http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nuclea...el-Fabrication/
Wonder if rain might be doing the same thing. Heavy rains increasing reactivity. Changing precipitation rates affecting steam bubble formation. Would that hold true for atmospheric conditions in contact with radioactive materials?
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The water in front of the plant looks lighter in color than the rest of the ocean. Was that a military ship cruising by?
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“…it is true that both the charge-coupled silicon devices and the metal-oxide semiconductors may produce visible light scintillations in response to ionizing radiation.”
Says alpha more likely to produce light
http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q8921.html
ccd camera and rad info
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Nuckelchen, Toll! Thanks for the gif. I don't have very good editing software, usually don't post 'cause of the amateur results. You fixed it up nice. The gif will make it easier to show people recent events on other blogs. Vielen Dank für Ihre Videos und Bearbeitungen.
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I dismissed the light effects as water droplets refracting or reflecting the bright light sources nearby until a chat with someone here that worked with outdoor cameras monitoring wildlife. She had never seen these kinds of light effects in rain or snow. Asking if there were nearby bright light sources, she answered that an eagle nest on stadium lights did not show the light effects. I see the other outdoor cams don't show those light effects. Keeping an open mind I had to consider what makes that site different from all the others seen from camera. Captures with little raindrop distortion and watching the unusual movement at normal speed convinced me to look again at the phenomena and explore other explanations. For example, do polluted radioactive rain drops on the lens fluoresce more than a clean raindrop would producing bright spider webbing effects?
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Ontological has good info on lens and camera effects.
http://enenews.com/tv-fukushima-fish-mak...3%20-%20respond
I still think it may be the concentrated radioactive atmosphere with plenty of x-ray emissions causing the glows that watched over time seem to reach out to metal grounds and discharge. Tritium lighting effects rather than ce 137 chlorides. They may etch the glass outside cover lens but that effect would be seen with every rain until replaced. In that continuous etching the lens would progressively degrade causing increased spider webbing. Why would effects be seen when not distorted by rain drops? The glass refractive etching explanation also points to the toxic atmosphere where sea salts and radioactive gases form radioactive chemicals.
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I was on once, slow to load, then couldn't get on again. Saw your entry on
http://enenews.com/forum-about-japan-bur...ioactive-debris
the temporary solution over there. The web cam watchers are an important part of Enenews. They stimulate conversations, network well, and provide real information about the goings on at Fuku. They'll get it fixed.
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Enenews Webcam Forum seems to be working now.
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Seen the debate about cam discrepancies, noted a few myself. The different camera angles and perspective shifts make it difficult to identify what’s where. No side by side captures, new to this and trying to document events better. I saw a smoke cloud drift in front of the front white tower and dissipate on the Tepco cam. I started TBS and saw it was smoking. Started recording programs and captured the last part. It was over in maybe ten minutes. Here are the TBS captures that show the last part of the smoke event on 12-24 at 10:30 jst.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yi3j71erys56a0j/Capture77.PNG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/igpdnk4abm8c7v...201030-jst1.avi
The question here is what went up in smoke. Is Tepco burning trash in the open air? An equipment fire? Was it a steam release? What went up in Nucklechen’s captures earlier?
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@webcam 12-24 1030-jst Was watching tepco cam and saw smoke pass in front of the crane. Checked TBS cam and watched a smoke event. Captured the last part of the event.
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Tomioka cam looks grainy too. Maybe fogging up or rain/mist.
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